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lgiven
Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 9:37:18 AM

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Hi! I'm still working on completing my library science degree and am happily settled into a library job I love as it is, so I'm not going anywhere fast... but I wanted to throw this topic thread out there out of curiosity, in case anyone has any experiences or words of advice to share. I am curious about the idea of working in libraries abroad, and potential possibilities doing so, because my partner (who is currently a PhD student in a different field altogether) has a more or less standing job offer to do post-doctoral work, of all places, in Germany. He's lived in Germany before and would be interested to move back, and I have never grown out of my childhood dreams of living abroad... but I wouldn't want to just up and move without having job possibilities! Has anyone had experience, or known anyone who has been successful in job hunting abroad in the library profession? I'd be interested in hearing about any experiences, not necessarily specific to Germany or even Europe.

cheers!

:) beth
erin
Posted: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:50:11 PM
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This is not exactly about library jobhunting abroad but it is foreign experience: Last spring, I participated in Semester at Sea (http://www.semesteratsea.org). S@S is a study abroad program (most junior year undergrads) and they hire 2 librarians for every voyage. Each semester's voyage consists of 100 days on a ship going around the world and there is a summer session that is 65 days focusing on a particular place (ie. South America, the Pacific Rim, etc.) The program is affiliated with the University of Virginia. UVA sends one librarian each voyage and then they hire an Assistant Librarian. You need to be able to get 3 months off of your real job (or be otherwise unemployed) and the pay is not great (a "stipend") but you get to work your butt off running your own little library and you get to go around the world. It's a pretty amazing experience. You can read about my experience on my blog: http://sea-ville.blogspot.com or you can contact Mary Johnston at the University of Virginia (mjj2b@virginia.edu) for more info. Application information is available on the S@S website.


Erin Stalberg
Head of Metadata & Cataloging
North Carolina State University Libraries
msboyd
Posted: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:13:49 PM

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Hi --

I lived in the UK for a number of years and there are a few tricky points as far as immigration and working in the EU; some countries might allow you to do something of a 'working holiday' (depending on your age) and others will not let you work unless you are married to someone who already has the right to do so. Getting a work permit for most library jobs would be tricky, but is theoretically possible.

I know it's possible to get your student visa changed to a working visa in the UK upon graduation if you jump through the right hoops, but you will have a tougher time going to the EU as a working professional in most fields unless you have at least 10 years of work experience in most cases. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but it will take a lot of research and preparation. You could luck out with an IT job with a multinational that has a German office -- that's probably an easier avenue.

Having said all that, I think living abroad is a great thing everyone should try if they can - I'm very glad I did it and I'd do it again if the right opportunity came up, but it's a lot harder with a spouse/family to consider. Still, you never know!

Lisa

Lisa Grimm
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Drexel University College of Medicine
Archives & Special Collections on Women in Medicine and Homeopathy
joan
Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:29:18 AM
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I'm currently working in Egypt, at the American University in Cairo. I applied for this job from the US and was given a great expat package that includes relocation, six weeks annual leave for me and my family (including plane tickets back the US), furnished housing, lots of vacation time, and more. It's a great set-up, and I got this job less than a year after graduating with my MLS.

There are other English-speaking universities in the Gulf Region that do this for Americans as well. In fact, there are more and more American universities partnering with Middle Eastern countries like the Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and more to offer a western education in the Gulft.

I really recommend looking for an expat package. We couldn't do this otherwise.

It's tougher to find jobs in Europe because, well, it's Europe! They don't need Americans to run western-style universities. I have heard that the UK and US credentials are interchangeable (ie Brits recognize an ALA-accredited degree), but the problem is still the visa. As I said, Europe doesn't need us to so much.

So, if you're interested in international work, I'd encourage you to check the job listings in the Chronicle of Higher Ed. I've seen librarian jobs listed there in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. Good luck.
joan
Posted: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:39:32 AM
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I forgot to also suggest looking at IFLA. They have a listserv for jobs that sometimes includes international jobs.

Also, I just saw this:
Duties: Performs work that requires full professional knowledge of the
theories, principles, and practices of librarianship to select,
organize, preserve, access, manage, and disseminate information
associated with public/patron services, technical services and
automation services. Provides reference/research using text and online
searching principles, reader's advisory/selective dissemination of
information, circulation, programming and library instruction,
marketing/public relations, interlibrary loans, and an up-to-date web
presence. Performs technical services functions including acquisitions,
procurement, cataloging/classification, physical processing, and
accountability of materials. Performs automation services including ILS
maintenance, network operations, and workstation and Internet issues.
Develops and implements long-range automation plans for the library
within the parameters defined by the supervisory librarian.

Announced on CPOL Vacancy Board
https://cpolwapp.belvoir.army.mil/public/vabSelfNom/index.jsp under:
Vacancy Announcement Number: EUNAFHJ0802166133A

Point of Contact: USAG Bamberg CPAC NAF Division, 0951-300-8027 /
469-8027, wuerzburg.naf@eur.army.mil
Email resume to: wuerzburg.naf@eur.army.mil

And it reminded me that the army has lots of libraries around the world, and so that's another option for working overseas.
infogeek
Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:30:47 AM
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as previously mentioned, Europe might be difficult. for example, in the UK- if you are young-ish (under 32) wiith an MLS and make roughly $50,000/year or more you *might* qualify under their highly skilled program, but otherwise it'll be hard going to get a work permit (since librarians are definitely not in short supply in Britain!) I would suggest looking for an American company/organisation to transfer overseas with.


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lgiven
Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:35:11 AM

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Wow, thanks for all the great responses! All very helpful and provide me - and I hope others considering such moves, as well - with some great food for thought...

Best,
Beth
Rachel
Posted: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:01:01 AM

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Also, if your partner will be doing post-doctoral work for a limited period of time, you might look into doing a temporary job exchange with a German librarian. Here are a few links about job exchanges: http://www.lisjobs.com/nonus.htm#exchange.

There have also been a few relevant Info Career Trends and LIScareer.com articles:

http://www.lisjobs.com/newsletter/archives/sept07sbrown.htm
http://www.lisjobs.com/newsletter/archives/sept03ctovell.htm
http://www.lisjobs.com/newsletter/archives/may01swerberg.htm
http://www.liscareer.com/kear_international.htm
http://www.liscareer.com/fawley_overseas.htm




Rachel Singer Gordon / rachel@lisjobs.com
Find a library job: http://www.lisjobs.com
The Liminal Librarian: http://www.lisjobs.com/blog
joan
Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:23:41 AM
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I forgot to mention one great avenue for overseas library jobs: K-12 international schools. Any international city with an embassy will have designated a local international or American school as offering an education equivalent to what their employees' kids could get in the US. These international schools get regular visits from people hired by the State Dept. and usually recruit internationally. And they often recruit at job fairs in the US.

If you have any interest in working overseas and you have a teaching certificate, consider looking at these international schools. They're usually a really diverse and interesting group of students and teachers, and I hear they pay well.

Somewhere on the State Department website, you can find the list of international schools in every country (except like Iraq).
dbriel
Posted: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:17:58 PM

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You may want to consider US military libraries abroad. USA jobs is a great resource. The application process is tedious, but currently there are Air Force jobs open til May and I believe that the Navy has quite a few, too. I especially like it because it serves the families of service people and they deserve all that they can get.
http://www.usajobs.gov/ I am waiting for an Air Force job stateside. Email me off list with questions!
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