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I had an onsite interview with a college two months ago and haven't heard back from them yet(officially). Yesterday I called the HR department and found out they already made the decision. Obviously I am NOT the one.
Recently I noticed there is another position in the same college which also fits my background. Does that sound awkward to you if I apply again? I know I won't lose anything since I just need to send out my application materials via email. I am just curious how likely you will give a candidate a second chance if you already met her and turned her down.
Thank you!
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I think it really depends on how different the position is, and also who else applies. Maybe you were not the strongest applicant in the pool for the first position, but that doesn't mean you might not be for this second position. So it's worth a shot, I suppose. Worst case scenario is that they figure they already talked to you once & don't feel the need to talk to you again. No big loss. However, I would be more concerned about working for any organization that does not have the courtesy to contact all applicants after a position is filled & notify them that they didn't get it. Did you get the impression that is their standard procedure, or did they apologize & act like it was some sort of oversight or miscommunication? That would make a difference to me, if I were in your place.
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Thank you for your advice. I will give it a try.
I have no idea whether or not it's their standard procedure. After the interview, I was told by the library director that they would make a decision in about a month. After a month passed, I didn't hear anything. I sent out an inquiry to the director and no response and I moved on until I see the new position and wonder if I want to give it a try.
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If they turned you down due to personality concerns, than you are out of luck if the same people are evaluating you again. Most often though someone with more experience or skills for a specific position gets hired, and those that get turned away are not bad candidates overall. Go for it! The last person we hired as a department head originally applied for a totally different position. If they liked you, they will be open to you applying to multiple roles within their organizations. The people that are never looked at again are the ones that apply to EVERY position whether or not they are qualified - and most often they live local.
Brian C. Gray Head of Reference & Engineering Librarian Kelvin Smith Library Case Western Reserve University http://blog.case.edu/bcg8bcg8@case.edu
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During my last job search I found that far more institutions never contacted me again then contacted me to let me know the position had been filled. Even institutions who specifically said they would notify me either way never did. It is really just common courtesy to notify the candidates, and in the age of email there is truly no excuse not to. In some cases I spent weeks prepping for a multi-day interview for which I traveled across the country; I think I at least deserve a perfunctory form letter. Others I have talked to make vague waving gestures while mumbling about disconnects between hiring committees and HR departments, but from personal experience I would say this is a widespread problem and there should be someone who takes ownership of making sure candidates receive these kinds of notifications. I think hiring committees sometimes forget that candidates are intentionally insulated from the hiring process and what is gruelingly explicit for committee members is a black hole of information for candidates.
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Robert wrote:In some cases I spent weeks prepping for a multi-day interview for which I traveled across the country; I think I at least deserve a perfunctory form letter. Others I have talked to make vague waving gestures while mumbling about disconnects between hiring committees and HR departments, but from personal experience I would say this is a widespread problem and there should be someone who takes ownership of making sure candidates receive these kinds of notifications. I think hiring committees sometimes forget that candidates are intentionally insulated from the hiring process and what is gruelingly explicit for committee members is a black hole of information for candidates. In almost organizations I have been in the contact with a candidate stops at the interview and is totally done by HR after that, whether it be good or bad news. The problem is you made that connection with the hiring committee, not the HR person. But due to legal restrictions (and probably lawsuits happy USA), HR handles those late conversations in the process. The hiring committee rarely even knows if a letter or email was sent. Most times the hiring committee fully understands your situation, but the notification process does not rest with them.
Brian C. Gray Head of Reference & Engineering Librarian Kelvin Smith Library Case Western Reserve University http://blog.case.edu/bcg8bcg8@case.edu
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bcgray wrote:
In almost organizations I have been in the contact with a candidate stops at the interview and is totally done by HR after that, whether it be good or bad news. The problem is you made that connection with the hiring committee, not the HR person. But due to legal restrictions (and probably lawsuits happy USA), HR handles those late conversations in the process. The hiring committee rarely even knows if a letter or email was sent. Most times the hiring committee fully understands your situation, but the notification process does not rest with them.
Thanks for sharing this information with us. I think it's understandable they leave the results to HR after the interview.
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I have hired people who did not get one position for a different one. In one case, it was a matter of having a master's or not having the degree. Certainly it is worth trying for another position with the same employer, as long as you are actually qualified for the position.
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